hey all sorry i'm late bout time what's new? i have a full desktop rollin *** bltfast32 has joined channel #bclug hey all hey what's new? you still going to play foz? oh i will okay mike if you want to play bzflag it's blfast32.homelinux.org:5154 it's a private server so it's not in the list ok, i'll come in soon I'm coming in it is not letting me in ryan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! make it work i can't get in either is it bltfast32, as opposed to blfast32? no unless he typed it wrong bltfast32.homelinux.org why can' you get it telnet bltfast32.homelinux.org 5154 and if you get BZFS1910 error connecting to server that means it's working can you telnet that port mike? can't telnet to it, tried what the frick can't load your homepage on the net either ssh that addy I don't have apache running ah, that explains the web server... when i do :5154 it says looking up host name no data for host name maybe my dns is stale foznot: use bltfast32 as opposed to blfast32 that's what it was try now try what? my ip changed your ip appears to be 68.78.253.116 to me and my router didn't update it for some reaons it's moved what's the real ip? is it 68.251.117.157? butter??? you running kde? iceWm? windowmaker? gnome? yeah it's updated now hop in all bingo so...bltfast32.homelinux.org? yeah i'll just use the ip for now *** bitblt has quit: Connection timed out which burner should i get guys dvd? you just missed a good round of bz that was great i got to shoot people i didn't get a single kill hahaha freakin bait it takes a few rounds foz is a lot better than I expected i played alot today' 5 minutes here and there i suck so bad at legends it helps me feel good about myself legends is great thanks blt for setting it up I suck at it still though too that is a bclug staple np it's easy i didn't change my port I've got scripts I wrote for the server which is why it wouldn't let me in yeah so you can cheat 5154 is the default but it gets changed it was because everyone switches it around i have no work tomorrow, just like today i think we are going to ohio for hte weekend cool * bigmike160 drowns his sorrows in key lime yogurt maybe ma' or pa' would buy me a new computer I should try to copy LIT from you butter I'm sure it's layer frigging 9 mike you see that the windows src got leaked today? for 2k and nt4? nope funny stuff was it on a news site? exploits are sure to abound /. it'll pry hit the fan tomorrow it sounds like it happened late in the day I'm sure Linus is patching it into 2.7 right now ;) i just uninstalled mox my box feels lighter already yeah agreed XUL should be called Tool oops, ER is on...family time dang linux later all first sco code now M$? *** foznot has quit: "Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/" *linus you installed KDE 3.1 on shaw's machine? 3.2 is a pretty big improvement even speed wise been learning x86 ASM there's a book on savannah about it um not sure what version of kde prob 3.1 where's the page that has the book an ASM? http://www.nongnu.org/pgubook/ it's for beginner programmers but it's not bad only took me about 6 hrs to go through all the ASM parts I think that's only like the first 9 or 10 chapters I' I've done other ASM before though don't know how much of a diff that made this dir is where the files are http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/pgubook/ i'll check it out it's not fantastic but it's free linux x86 with gnu as so I figured what the hey they need a really good glibc walkthrough i just feel so overwhelmed by all this new stuff: text-based adventure programming with Shaw, smarty php, ... besides the glibc docs text adv sweet that's all I used to do back in the day on my TRS-80 you writing it in C? i want to set one in either my high school or here at bethel, but shaw wantst something dungeonesque yeah sweet friends don't let friends use strings in C on the other hand i'll probably do it in adl [http://adl.sf.net] it's good excercise for the mind it's like inform but with a GPL'd compiler pretty obscure it looks decent though that'd really speed things up did you see that MS patented XML today too hmm, according to [http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1526390,00.asp], m$ is denying the leak yeah, they denied patenting 'something as broad' as XML though ...too sure patents are sickening I think the source is out I'd say 50-50 chance there is a file manifest for it and I looked at it it's looks quite legit but maybe only the manifest was released if the files are there that are listed in the manifest thoug it's ut for sure including the sweet sweet IE oops forgot the sarcasm braces that's ok i'll just assume you're being sarcastic when you say things i don't like :P gentoo is better than debian ;) you're being sarcastic 1700 comments on the windows story hahahaha hard to tell gentoo rocks but so does debian shaw's computer is being annoying everytime we boot into linux, then into windows, things get messed up on windows, of course i've had issues like that can't see drives totally takes much longer to boot... I've had that several times any solutions? can't remember any off-handedly hey, maybe now that windows' source code is available, we could patch the problem ourselves yeah I'm sure just take out the lines 10 print "Starting Windows" 20 goto 10 lol nice hey okay im back they make a good point on /. im done with looking for hardware what if say ms suddenly says after copying tons of stuff from samba BTW samba copyied us and fakes the date stamps? for code that's written after now I mean or 'diff /usr/src/linux /usr/src/windows > better-off.diff; cd /usr/src/windows; patch -p1 /home/mike/better-off.diff', that would fix the problems diff -r, rather or rm -rf /usr/src/windows or better yet dd if=/dev/urandom of=windows_src.c lol that's do it hey what do i use to allow all users to access windows partitions in fstab users and that umask I gave you /dev/hda5 /mnt/d vfat umask=0 0 0 there's one of mine for ntfs, use the following: substitute 'ntfs' for 'captive-ntfs' if you don't have captive installed and add 'rw' to the options part if mounting read-only, still use 'rw', just change umask=0222 it won't work if you use 'ro' flag or omit 'rw' flag weirdf *weird can't type today got thanks err got it thanks we're fat lovers no ntfs in these machines yup too messy course we do use reiserfs can't wait for 4 still making me crazy should be any time can't you use the devel version ? i saw its stable in 2.6 now though kernel supports v4 it seems it's not in the kernel yet you have to patch to get it you sure? i thought i saw the option in 2.6.1 I'll check says reiser but it doesn't say ver ah shaw might join in a bit he just got back he better use linux this time ;) the reiser site is great has a good explanation of different fs structures and some of the specifics of reiser Reiser4 is in final testing, and will ship soon! Debian ppl are wooses scared of all the good stuff REISER4 heck year bzflag is #3 on sourceforge's top 25 projects list it's going to be awesome yeah it's amazing it's a great game I get booted from jabber alot is the default server too populated? no idea you use lilo mike? nope i use grub cool it's better grub is way better yup even though it can't boot from cd easily which is silly can lilo? yeah I've read a few ppl complain about that don't remember where that img is I saw it stinks having an XBox in the room we never get work done anymore it's going soon put linux on it it's not ours some hawaiians on the floor below us loaned it out i'm not real big on the whole Halo culture either it gets old fast even though I play now no kidding it blows pc gaming is the way to go consoles suck trying to find the grub thing me too it'd be nice to set the machine to HD boot but be able to pick floppy/cd boot when you want it that would rock that's much better than cd always on new fedora beta out today big deal {maybe that's what they meant by windows src leaked} lol those are the sarcasm brackets hahaha laughing about the brackets and whats inside em if i wanted a version of linux with package handling like debian, i'd get debian instead of some user-friendly piece of cr@p playing catch-up have u tried to install gentoo yet mike {you mean debian playing catch up to gentoo} nope }=O i leave the over-compiling to the big boys it's awesome but you wouldn't like it you should make a little room for it for awhile library version indepenence i mean if u have room no way he wouldn't down I'd bet money on it i'd rather not have to mess around on the source level, but on the application configuration level there's binary packgaes in the gentoo for the packages now but I've never used them that's just silly so I don't know much about them it uses them if they exist for your system as i said before, use debian instead of something that's becoming more like it otherwise it compiles them no way debian should pick something's up from gentoo oops, forgot the sarcasm braces on my comment like updating KDE worst thing about debian, no sarcasm intended is that they refuse to learn from others because they think they've done it all right yeah, that's real hard: apt-get kde and while I think it is one of the best no one should think that apt-get install kde IF packages are broken upstream as usual i guess can't wait for 3.1 I like the idea of testing because it's like gentoo where the stable is the latest rather than a version snapshot yeah but testing has hitches on occassion like galeon and mc not being there before... I think debian has a hard time because of the unreally huge package base I think gentoo may hit the same thing one of the reasons they've taken off so fast doesn't gentoo have as much as debian? nah debian has more weird old stuff gentoo has a lot of stuff but some of it is already losing maintainers a common problem to both communities that's why I have some hope for UserLinux even though I have issues with it because it's a limited scope the source thing can be a pain but a quick cron script takes care of that I don't think I can go to Debian with my new machine because it'll be too hard hardware and software wise because the hw is so fresh it needs bleeding edge apps to even work 2.6 on deb would fix most of it but not all you logging this again? what did willy end up doing with your old tv card nothing important I'm sure pry soldered some leds to it you should try and get it back from him nah are u going to get one pry they are expensive on newegg right now im at 347 im getting the plextor DVD-burner found a crap brand for $37 DVD-burner ? i read a review on anandtech on the plextor and they said it was the best hands down they are even as far a quality to price goes WinFast TV2000 XP